Ok ok ok. So, I’m a little late to the podcast party. I am always late to parties. I was late to the aquafaba party too. I mean, I am way late to the podcast party though, particularly as someone addicted to iProducts. I previously adored one very particular, weird podcast called A Podcast to the Curious. This is totally THRILLING if you are a huge fan of the ghost stories of M.R. James, which, admittedly, is a niche group. However, when they started to run out of stories to discuss on the podcast, I ran out of reasons to listen to podcasts and gave up. (True fact: the premise of James’ story ‘Casting the Runes‘ inspired Sam Raimi’s 2009 ~classic~ Drag Me to Hell.)
Aaaaanyway. I’ve been reaching out to friends (and Google) lately in search of new podcasts to entertain me. I completed the compulsory initiation and binge-listened to the whole of season one of Serial in 36 hours, and once the requisite baptism was over and done with, I started to check out my vegan options.
Maybe it’s because I’d done a fair bit of Facebook debating not long before discovering this (I know I know, but sometimes I don’t practise what I preach!) and the first episode I listened to was the Facebook fighting one, which was tremendously cathartic for me.
But anyway. This show is produced by the lovely Callie and Nichole. Both live and work in California and have been podcasting together for just under a year, since January 2015. Each show takes the format of some vegan ‘news’, and then launches into the vegan ISSUE of the day. I love the intelligent, compassionate conversational style they use; their curiosity, honesty and open-mindedness are refreshing, and since their sense of humour closely matches my own, I very much enjoy their little tangents.
These gals have covered such (forgive the pun) meaty topics as: contraception, identity, intersectionality, abortion, eating disorders, Things White Vegans Do, PETA and activism. They do this with intelligence and grace, and I find their chats at once illuminating and hilarious.
It helps that our politics seem fairly closely aligned, but I think that even if it weren’t the case, the easy style of the shows, which feel like a conversation you are almost a part of, really invite the listener to examine their own veganism and their own views in a much broader sense (in ways that perhaps they didn’t realise might link in with their veganism).
I’m excited to see what Callie and Nichole will come up with in the future; I think that this wonderful, intersectional brand of veganism is growing and changing and I love that these guys are not afraid to ask difficult questions or to jump right in and have difficult discussions.
I do also appreciate that they acknowledge their own world view (and at times their own privilege) and in doing so approach a lot of potentially thorny topics with a much greater respect and sensitivity. I like that they realise it’s important to listen sometimes, particularly when it comes to talking about minority or oppressed groups (and being aware of not speaking for them).
These days I am pretty well immersed in this brand of veganism, and I make sure to try and surround myself with like-minded folk. But for those times when I’m not, or when the vegan community gets me down, or for those people who are NOT lucky enough to have connections with open-minded and supportive vegan friends, I think this podcast is a really great way to perhaps work through some of your thoughts or feelings about all sorts of things (even right down the the above-mentioned Facebook fighting!)
Ultimately these two lovely humans make my bus ride to work SO MUCH LESS DEPRESSING! And for that I cannot thank them enough.
So enough of my gushing, you should definitely check out this podcast. 5 out of 5!
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